The great debate - what is your opinion?
I have a dilemma. Me and my boyfriend are constantly harressed by a certain individual known as Air-Ress of Perth. (How the hell can people write like that?? Perhaps I’m a bit slow…..) Don’t know whether if she qualifies as the heiress or not, but if she insists she is, well, no point arguing, waste of time. Well, she keep sending us rude messages and so..I talked to her. In our conversation, we debated about a certain issue. This issue needs to be clarified and needs the help of the Perth population, cos we cant seem to get to a conclusion
Ok…Heiress here claims that all farmers should, or as she put it..DESERVE to be looked down upon. (It all started because she called my friends "vegefarmers" as an insult - i put hyphens because I honestly don see them as that nor have anything against farmers) She said that that’s the way she feel. She feel that why do farmers have to work on farms. Why don’t they just go to uni and try to take up science and invent some technologies where they can press a button and people can get a lettuce from the computer. AND I MEAN LITERALLY OUT FROM THE COMPUTER. (can you imagine a uni student saying things like this??) Well, i guess someone’s living in LALALAND. Of course that is ideally the thing for us, BUT in reality, that is hardly even possible. If that is your reason for looking down on vege farmers, then why not u look down on all the scientists before? WHY ARE THEY SOOOOO DUMB THEY CANT INVENT SUCH A COMPUTER…so i can ebay myself a brocolli???? come on ppl….lets look down on ALL the stupid scientist! You didnt do enough for all of us!!!!
Sigh…….why a person who claim to be Heiress and superior to all of those she "THINKS" are lower that her.. if she’s as educated as she claims to be…how can she even utter such nonsense?!!
We are living in a world where technology is not as advance as the heiress hope to be. There’s no point wondering why technology can’t be more advance and blame it on the farmers who work their ass off day in day out in the sun to put vege’s in supermarkets for "rich" people to eat? Why not live in the present, and show some compassion and some gratitude for what they have done for us so that we do not have to be in the sun planting our own vegies. Every occupation has its importance, its a cycle that keeps the world moving. It’s only immature people like Heiress who thinks that she is all mighty, thinks that she has the right to look down on others. Little did she know that she is the uneducated one who doesn’t understand the facts of life, only she who is so shallow who will put judgements on others just because they chose a certain profession that she deems "LOW CLASS". Little did she know that she is the one without class…she is the uneducated…and she is the one not worthy of any of the vegefarmer’s time.
There is no point looking down on others just to feed your insecurities and make yourself seem more superior. To me, its a cowardly act.
Well, as you can all see, I feel strongly against Heiress’s philosophy. I don’t think that anyone has the right to look down on anyone, regardless whether you THINK you are richer or not, especially only based on that insignificant factor. I can’t be bothered debating like kids with her, such childish thinking is hardly imaginable in a person. But if anyone agrees with her, i respect your decision and have nothing to say. You are entitled to your own oppinion. But don’t force your oppinion on others and make them feel inferior in any way, cos they most definitely are NOT. So if you people who are reading is free, and would like to speak on the matter, feel free to add a comment or send me a message. I am sick of argueing with heiress, and just want it to stop.
U said you are an EDUCATED student, but u don even know what interogate means and you use the word. However, the irony is, my "vegefarmer" friends KNOW what that means. soooo….are u that confident that you are more educated than them?
I know that there are people out there who has encountered or has feel the wrath of the heiress. Don’t feel inferior because of how she make u feel? Have u realised that she use alot of big words, but she don’t actually know what it means nor make any sense? It has taken too long for people to actually tell her in the face that people out there have worth, and i like a phrase in someones blog, from whores to junkies, they all have a certain strength in them that others dont. Everyone have something to offer and have something that they are good at. I know that most would just let it slide, I let is slide too before. Its not just today that she’s been acting like this. However, I think that this time, she has gone too far.. I’m sorry if I offend anyone, but this is the only way to let her know how wrong she is….and stop picking on people just because they don retaliate!
September 21st, 2006 at 9:39 am
heys chen chen… reading ur blog im confused with the term ‘vege farmers’ and what it actually means. these are quotes which contradict the meaning of vege farmers in your blog…are we talking in the same context here? [as with sussan and u]
“vege farmers is a name academics and experts gave to a minority of vietnamese immigrants” ..thus
“they r not literally vege farmers”.
“dubbed vege farmers…these ppl fail to intergrate with australian society and western way of life”
“they keep to their own values and attitudes and wont adopt aussie v n a”
September 21st, 2006 at 9:52 am
well gwen, if u are confused, u should ask ur friend sussan cos she is the one who called people vegefarmers. But im sure she didn’t meant it as minority vietnamese immigrants as she clearly said in her blog “No brains I guess…being on farms for great amounts of time severely limits the functioning of the brain”. Isn’t it clear who she was referring to?? And like i mentioned in my blog, she wanted vegies to appear in computers, so i think its pretty clear of her interpretation of vegefarmer? Thanks for your input though =)
September 21st, 2006 at 9:55 am
sign…well cheng u r not da only who hated H3ir3ss and disagree to all the things she sed!!!! I hate her and i know alot of pplz really dislike her coz of her arrogant attitude and look down on pplz etc,but pplz jus stayd quite about it!!!! well pplz open up, dun be scared its a FREE WORLD!!!! this world is not own by H3ir3ss u pplz r free to tell the truth and dats why iam freely saying ” i dun like H3ir3ss “
September 21st, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Nice BLog cheng cheng =)
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:39 am
Sup Babe,
Hehe, da great debate im in.
Let me say from my point of view. hrmmm
Don’t waste our time n energy on ppl like her, she can cal herslef wateva she wants 2 heiress, da package or leader’s gf, dats up 2 her. Let her live in her imaginary world thinkin she da best n betta den every1 else. Cos in reality she knows she got nufin n hated by every1. Dats y she went out wid sum1 who is well known by othas just 2 be popular.
Calling ppl a vegie farmer girl (que mua) is bit 2 far. Yeah maybe they were raise in a farm al der childhood at least they haf nice heart, pride n dignity n would not do anything stupid 2 embarrass der family or shame der bf out. Unlike sum1 (Heiress) who is so proud of doing wat she doing n dont care about her bf or family feelings. If she is so smart she wud haf pik a betta website 2 put her half naked pics on der, rather den piking a site where every1 can see. How low can u get? n u cal urself well educated, smart n well raise. huh wat a joke.
Think twice before wat u do, dont go judging ppl or look down on othas cos ur not any betta. Its ppl like her dat we shud feel sorry for cos she dumb n stupid n haf no brain.
I’m usually a very quiet person n wouldnt care bout things dat much. But now it has reach my limit n i cant handle it no more so i gotta speak up hahaha. So 2 every1 esles if u got sumfin 2 say, say it now.
The Debate
Heiress Vs Vegie Farmer Girls
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:08 am
shit im jus about to go to family dinna, but jus giving a spare time jus to write this ” u got no1 to stick up for u now H3ir3ss so stop acting like u r all dat!!! ” us farmer gurls are looking for you, so dun hide shit head
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:21 am
I just wanna say that I don’t understand this “LEADER” thing. In a group of friends, if like what heiress mention that her boyfriend is the “LEADER” and “IDOL” of all…does it mean that his friends are all second rank and lower than him? Shouldnt friendship mean equal respect and loyalty? I’m sure the boyz would not sit well with a nobody saying that their bf is their leader. Undoubtedly, he is a good friend and very much respected..but to go as far as saying that he is ‘their leader’ and that they should not disrespect the leader, is a bit too much. It’s like they are in a cult or something! How barbaric!
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:57 am
mmmmmmmmm. this is phuong (my bro’s lovely sister). first of all i would like to say that the word “vege farmers” is incorectly used, let me a youth worker tell you ppl like Sussan and frens (if hav any), know that by saying “vege farmer” you are discriminating them and puting them in a subculture, if you are to tell ppl who know what this terms really mean you would be laughed at, so for a vietnamese person to say something like that you are too puting your culture and people down (that also include you and your family). but there is no point because you have no shame and have no dignity towards your own race hahhahah, so let me to be the first to laugh at you. secondly, don’t you EVER I MEAN EVER TALK ABOUT MY BROS, BECAUSE YOU ARE A LOW LIFE LOWER THAN SHIT. my bro have dignity and have respect toward his frens (everone know that), wonder why he have heaps of frens who love him, and your bf have none(name me one person who loves your bf).let me give u an example: in church and on the street people come and talk to him, unlike your bf who stand in one corner and no one come and talk to him, coz he treat people like shit. thirdly, you say becoz of my bro this is why everthing happen, but if you think about it, it takes two to tango, i’m not saying that he is rite (oh no, he is always rite and never wrong). you know what, i can’t be bothered to talk to you anymore coz u are nothing to me and the ppl who i love love me, does anyone love you sussan other than your family, so think about it. i’m proud to be one and have a sense of belonging, do you?, i have culture, respect and dignity like any you so call “vege farmers”. oh I MEAN IT ABOUT CALLING MY BRO AND CHENG. LET IT BE A WARNING TO YOU.HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAH.
September 22nd, 2006 at 7:35 am
people are of how they are brought up.. sussan was brought up in a wealthy family, she went to uni and received distinctions at high school… mayb this is an insight to how she is?..sussan migh appear to be ‘arrgogant’ to others, but one should consider the fact that she was raised in a ‘privileged’ family. And to a certain extent this explains her attitude towards others … u get me chen chen? just dun let what she says get to you… we cant change the way she was brought up,or the way she thinks. Her ‘privileged’ background is not understanding people who arent so ‘privileged’or que mua’.. u get people like that.. i wouldnt take it to heart…
September 22nd, 2006 at 8:47 am
Hello and Goodevening to all those who are reading “The great Debate” I, Diana Tran, wish to put my part in.
I wish to direct my comment to no one other than the one who defines herself as a female dog who inherits or has a right of inheritance .If that is not obvious enough than yes SUSSAN , it is you I am directing it at.
Let me first start off by saying that not matter how much one may inherit in materialistic wealth, one will never be able to buy the characteristic of honesty. Let me further express my point. On the night when I was a victim of the most extreme act of cowardiness. I was asked out of pure sincerity to leave it to the male gender of the group to sort out. Now as I was approached by your boyfriend outside Church as to whether or not I hit your “Mr. Potatoe Head” face (your facial features make you look like “Mr. Potatoe head”) I was HONEST enough to admit that yes I did.
Hiep then fabricated an utter disappointment and sadness, however he is not a very good actor so what he said was just a load of horse SHIT. He asked that we leave it at that, but you being the attention-seeking-artificial-C-class-pornstar that you are wanted all eyes on me in your sad attempt to physically harm me from BEHIND!. HA! Didn’t respect me to turn around and crack you didn’t ya? After this chain of events your boyfriend came up to mine to apologise and say that he did not tell you to do it. Obviously, you both have reps of being TALK SHITTERERS so another dribble of shit came out of his mouth that night.
I wish to conclude this point by saying honesty is something you do not have let alone lack, it is a something that makes someone genuine and kind hearted a type of person you will never have the ability to be. My second Point is although you make have pockets full of cash earned by taking off your top or shall I say wearing your LOW RIDER BOOB TUBE, it will never buy you self dignity, a virtue that for one is priceless, and two can and will never be replaced. Once it is lost it can never be regained, therefore you are walking contradiction, because you are far from being pure or innocent. You are already known as a unattractive SLUT due to your explicit topless pictures on a website which you wish I wouldn’t mention! Ha! Too late! Ur exposed. Not that you havnt done it yourself.
Let me tell you something SUSSAN, I have never known someone to take so many pictures of themselves, for starters no matter how many you take you still look RANK, it doesn’t get better more you take so for the sake of humanity, quit with the pics, as for all the beauty contests which you so desperately try to win. You ain’t ever going! So stop trying so hard, its painful to watch you count to yourself while trying to dance smoothly on stage. Oh the embarrassment. Lastly I wish to say to all those who try to sticking up for you SUSSAN, you think she’ll be there for you when the time comes? She’ll probably be powdering her nose in her compact mirror while your face is getting smashed!! She’ s the dirtiest, the dodgiest of them all!
Thankyou to all those who have expressed their concern and opinions in the matter! Have a nice night and remember
“Life is too short to learn from mistakes sometimes you just got to learn from those before you”
Peace out Diana
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:27 am
Heya Gwen. I understand what you mean, but being wealthy is not an excuse to behave like that. I don’t know if she is really as wealthy as she claims to be, but I know plenty of really wealthy girls who are kind, nice and most importantly, will not look down on others. I don’t see her being raised like that as a privilege. On the other hand, I reckon it’s a handicap that she has to live with for the rest of her life. Perhaps she has not treated you like that yet, so you don feel the bite. It’s like asking you to forgive Winda for whatever she did to you. I don’t know what happened in between, but as mentioned in your page and blogs, you are very open with your hatred for her. Can you not take to heart what she did to you? There’s a fine line where people should NOT cross, and heiress not only cross it, she’s already on the other side DANCING!! (Or at least try to)!!! We can’t change her, but we have to stop her from polluting our space. She forced her way in, but we will escort her out. Hope you understand our part.
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:56 am
hey guys rite me testi =D
September 22nd, 2006 at 6:12 pm
Winda TRied to chat up woNg lah =( .. wen i toLD her to back-off >=/ …anywaiZ bak to the storY
i understaND whaT you mean chen chen, and is not bias of anyone’s side .. so i hope you guys do sort this out a.s.a.p . ..
peace out and take care..
September 22nd, 2006 at 7:16 pm
regarding dianna’s comment on hiepy.. personalli i dun know if he is a shit talker or not, but to my opinion he is pretty straight forward and direct. he respect others who respect him. i dun think he is at all like the described above, but that is onli my opinion. Also, i dun think it is his fault that he stood up for his gf… things you do for the sake of love…
but again hiep is a good friend of mine.. so i dunno how he is towards others..
i rest my case..
peace out
September 23rd, 2006 at 3:06 am
okay… well i duno wats going with u grls and sussan, and i undersstand from stories that yu guys dnt liek my bro coz he was sticking up for his gf. i believe that my bro and all his frends, he treat them as equal and im sure he doesnt see him self as a “leader” or wat ever. He sees his frends, especially your brothers as “brOs”, no one higher or lower.
none of u know my brother so don’t talk about him, and make it sound like u know him so welll. everyone has their own opinion, a person may be very loved but also they could be very hated. but your boldly saying hiep got no frend and that everyone hate him comparedd to ur brothers who is soo loved and respected by many others. NO ONE … NO ONE is to judge on another if they have frends or not, if they are loved or not. Because everyone is by sumone. And jus because from your point of view u see him as a NOBODY…others may not. I know that ur brothers are respected coz I do respect him too..why ? because his my brother frend, and I respect my brothers frends, coz they look out for each other. Firstly I respect my brother that why I second respect his. So if your brother don’t like hiep, then fair enough, but you shuld respect him if they are still frend. Coz they ur older bro. and even if u hate him, leave ur brothers out of it why u pulliong them in and comparing. I know u have the right to dislike him, but u shuldnt JUGDE him in that kind of way and compare them on a website where everybody can see, if u want to say it to sussan say it to her. Why are you saying to the whole world. And his not like that… if hiep was so hated and such a loner, and if he treated his frends liek shit then why did he have frend like yur brothers? i think ur brothers and mine, are disapointed in all this bullshit thats been going on. and all this shit is making their frendship faLl apart. The comment above and some others just makes matters sound worst. if u gurls hate each other then deal with it .
my brother aint a CHEAP person and wuldnt tell his gf to hit sumone from behind.. his in jail now, so are u girls and guys happy? His doing his time now… so just leave him alone..
drop the case. Dnt include him in all ur bitch fights.
September 23rd, 2006 at 5:55 am
wels sed dzungie
newaiz ai miss u dzung we’ll catch up sumtimes..xox
September 23rd, 2006 at 6:19 am
okay…well Dzung i understand where u cumin from for sticking up for ur bro,coz i will do the same thing too!!!! But ur bro was too out off line regarding to wat he did to my 2 gurls in public jus coz of wat eva it is his fucking gf has been telling him stories which we all know that she would definately change the whole thing!!!! we all know who ur bro is and im sure he is well respected but again regarding to wat he did to my 2 gurls, where is the respect to that? But the whole fucking thing happend wit sussan its got nutin to do wit ur bro in the first place but the bitch jus have to bring him into it and making it worse by telling him alot of crap which she really gewd at it and like u can see now worse shit did happend by making the friendship falls apart and make from best frend to i dunno wat now!!!! its all becoz from a mouth of a cow,who i bet u now she jus sitting der on her balcony smiling and dreaming that she is on top of the world and dun even give a flying fuck bout everyone else!!!! You should read her blog proply who is the one that is talking bout ur bro? she is the one who started the whole “LEADER” shit and he is every1s idol!!!! Iam sure ur bro dun wan that to be mention..but she saying out loud and proudly jus for the fame of it!!!! No harsh feeling but we are not JUDGEMENTAL and COMPARING pplz…we only judge a person wen we know that the person are actually ignorant,think that they are betta than every1 else etc… and yes it is sussan!!!! Dont worry we will deal wit it soon by actually saying it to her face!!!! And we are not happy that ur bro is in jail,i know how it feels wen ur loved ones is in der!!! But, u r asking the question to the wrong pplz…u should be asking that question to the one and only H3ir3ss of perth…coz why would she should be worry coz like she sed she got everyting she wans and for da the situation like dis that ur goin through u tink she would jus sit der and worry about it? for her might aswell go shopping,take more pics etc…!!!! You can ignore everyting i sed, so take care!
September 23rd, 2006 at 6:33 am
[chen chen]-in a way u are suggesting i am contradicitng myself..
however the two contexts are completely opposite.. let me point out the fact that winda is not at all influenced by her family background, nor education.. infact she does not even do TEE. so her surroundings cannot shape her ‘arrogant’ behaviour like sussan.
thus, competiton and likewise are not ’shaped’ by surroundings..it is of her own expectations of who she wants to become… she was not brought up like that… but chose to live dat way..
i dun necessary agree with sussan’s point of view and the way she looks down on other people. and i dun think people shouldbe looked down because of their financial status.
However my point as illustrated on ur blog suggests that if someone’s value crashes with yours.. and that person is of a wealthy backgound. There is a very great chance that her behaviour wont change and will not change due to her upbringing. Therefore it is better to ignore him/her n thus ‘dun take it to heart’ becos [no offence sussan]
- her ’snobbish, arrogant and prejudice’ attitude will onli waste ur time..
wen winda infact’can’ change the way she is.. bcos she was not brought up believing others are ‘lower’ than her becos they wnt accpt aussie values and otherwise. winda isnt da way she is bcos her family brought her up that way, they did not bring her up to lead guys on.. it is of her own decision.
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dun take this comment into offence..im just trying to prove my point of why to ‘relationship’ and class discrimination cannot be contrast with..
September 23rd, 2006 at 8:27 am
AHAHAHAH wat a good poem olivia, i loved it!!!
I would first of all i want to say that, you are once again nothing but a slut, no, worst then a slut which means that you are nothing to anyone (other then your family, but mmmmmmmm do they even love you?).
I guess that when all of that shit happened about your bf giving money to my bro for food or what ever, can you proove it to me, other then the words of your bf. But let me tell you something, your bf have to ask my bro to pay off his drugs debt with my bro money, wat a laugh.
As for the comment about “vege farmers” , this would be the last time i would mention it to you, cause you don’t have a fucking brain. You should, first of all not mentio facts that are out of date, would you use old imformation for your assessments, no, you would not, so why use it?, dumb ass! ohhhhh, the other funny thing is that none off your frens even like you (even gwen).
Isn’t it funny, how you put your address and phone number on the net, you think that you are cool and hardcore (ahahhahahahahhaha), but the thing is you cant think. It not only us who want to get you, but there’s others out there who want to get you. You think that you are smart, by giving your address then wait for us to come for you, then you tell the cops on us. But we are smarter then that.
You talk about diana issues, do you have proof or is it only coming out of your pussy of a mouth. But let me tell the world about you, which i can proove. Isn’t funny my bro fucked you and dumped you coz your pussy is too old and big for him, hahahahhha, and make my dad drop you off with he’s truck which he transport chicken shit on it, embarass you did it? at least it better thatn the plan you prabbly had in mind, giving some one blow for a ride,hhahhahahahhahahah.
The last thing that i would like to say is that, i would never talk about hiepy again. Not because of you, but because of dzung, i respect wat she say and it’s true, don’t mention her bro and my bro because they have got nothing to do with our bitch fite. I respect people who respect others and make sense, far from what i can say about you.
So from now on i would never say a world about hiepy IF YOU DON’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY BROS. THIS WAR IS ABOUT US GALS NOT ABOUT YOUR BF NOR MY MY BROS.
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:12 am
Heya dzung =) I agree with what you say hey, and I’m sorry for bringing your brother in. But seriously, if you read my first blog, i never mentioned anything bad about your brother because i know that its only between sussan and me. However, she the cowardly one, who has to always use your brother as a shield, had to bring my boyfriend into the argument first and insult him, so I have no choice but to defend him against her rubbish. I will also give you my word that I will not say anything bad about your brother no more, unless the little twit start again.
And gwen, hrm…I dun think we should use winda as an example anymore, coz i feel really bad..heheh. sorry for that winda. I don want to pull other people into our conflict anymore. But yea, i know that you are trying to make the situation better and I respect that =) Don worry, it wont go on for long..heheh this is getting a bit annoying ehhe
to the lil annoying twit sussan, if you have any respect for ur boyfriend or dzung at all, u better shut ur trap and stop talking about ur own boyfriend and mine.
September 23rd, 2006 at 10:12 am
Sussan, I am refering to our vegefarmer debate. IN MY FIRST VEGE FARMER BLOG, did i mention anything about ur bf?? use ur stupid dyslexic mind. we are talking about OUR issues, again, stop using ur bf. And regarding that blog, did i even write any name there? HAH, u have to tell the whole world that it is about him..dumb idiot. Again, stop embaressing ur bf.
In ur other blog, u say u wan us to say to ur face, and we very much would like to oblige. after all..u demand our attention. You deserve our little pittance of attention. So i msg u and ask u to meet up. But what do u do? Hiding behind ur computer defaming everyone. HAH..u are on ur computer now arent ya. Hiding? Then don write all those bullshit saying that if we have anything to say, say it to ur face.
do not talk the talk if u cant walk the walk. cos im sick of all your words. Talk is cheap.
As for dzung, i do not need to explain myself to u. If u choose to believe her, i have nothing to say, as u are entitled to ur own opinion. But just wanna say that i understand what u are going through, and its partly my fault that u feel hurt. Unlike sussan, i still admit to my mistake. Till now, the twit still wan to continue blaming others rather than admit her mistakes. Hope u understand.
September 23rd, 2006 at 5:02 pm
Sorry, coz sussan’s comment is not welcome here!!! OOoPs, did u take a long time to make up BIG WORDS TO write ur comment??? ahhha sorry woman, but u don allow us to comment on ur blog, so u are not invited here….HYPOCRITE SUSSAN!!! Byes
September 24th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
hey gurls. fanks for ur words and not seeing me as just a kid.. now i wont have to worry anymore =)
yeh and im sorry for what had happened. wen nothing had happened yet i heard all the stories. i eben msg my bro and tell him to tink abt his action. coz i know he got bad temper. wen i found out what i feared wuld happened i was disapointed. and so is the family, my mum knows all abt it..it sumhow spread to the adults. i disagree with my brothers action, a guy shuld never hit a girl!! i fink things had jus gone way out of hand.
take care.. hope things settle down.